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THE NO ZOO LION PODCAST is hosted and found on SPOTIFY. You don't need an account to listen. However, if you want to watch the video that accompanies the audio, you need to log into your SPOTIFY account or watch on You Tube.


A NEW EPISODE every other Friday.


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EPISODE 1: Sept 27 2024

EPISODE 1: Sept 27 2024

EPISODE 1: Sept 27 2024

E1: An introduction to the No Zoo Lions Podcast with your hosts Chad Lyman and Ari Knazan. What is a ZOO LION? Introduction to Chad's MCT (Mechanics-Consistency-Tempo) Principle for sustainable training over years. Chad and Ari briefly touch upon the reason Law Enforcement is finally seeing more JIU JITSU in the profession. Join us!

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EPISODE 2: Oct 11 2024

EPISODE 1: Sept 27 2024

EPISODE 1: Sept 27 2024

E2: Positional Restraint: Prone vs Lateral Incumbent. 

Chad and Ari talk about this hot topic and the myths associated with both. Why are suspects dying and what do these restraints have to do with it? They delve deep into one of the most controversial topics in present day policing.

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EPISODE 3: Oct 25 2024

EPISODE 1: Sept 27 2024

EPISODE 3: Oct 25 2024

E3: Why Cops TRULY don't train. 

This one cuts deep and your hosts hold nothing back on the reasons cops don't train. What are some of the traditional reasons some hate Defensive Tactics? They shatter myths about training and hold admins, departments, and the officers themselves accountable. 

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EPISODE 4: Nov 8 2024

EPISODE 5: Nov 22 2024

EPISODE 3: Oct 25 2024

E4: Does Grappling Matter for Police Training?




Chad and Ari discuss why ALL Law Enforcement systems must have grappling and why Grappling itself is not enough. What is Police Jiu Jitsu and how has it evolved in the last 20 years. Is it its own art?

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EPISODE 5: Nov 22 2024

EPISODE 5: Nov 22 2024

EPISODE 5: Nov 22 2024

E5: Avoiding Injury and understanding Pace and Tempo.

In this episode, your hosts discuss their experience running rooms for class, seminars and camps. What does it take? How run a safe room? How should you structure it? What not to do? Proper Safety gear and safety measures. They also talk about how to extend your longevity on the mats and how to avoid injury!

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EPISODE 6: Dec 13 2024

EPISODE 5: Nov 22 2024

EPISODE 5: Nov 22 2024

E6: How Deescalation is a multi tiered approach.


Deescalation is often seen only as a verbal interaction between parties. What many don't realize is that physical intervention is also a strong deescalation tool and tactic in itself.



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EPISODE 6.5: Dec 21 2024

EPISODE 6.5: Dec 21 2024

EPISODE 6.5: Dec 21 2024

E6.5:  How  Austin Police Got Their Jiu Jitsu Approved and implemented. 


This special mini pod episode features Travis Joyner of Austin Police who details what it took to get their Jiu Jitsu Program approved. Travis is an 18 year police officer and a BJJ Black belt. Austin allows its members to attend local gyms and pays for their training time.   If you are looking for a program for your department, take a listen of what obstacles you'll need to overcome and address.


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EPISODE 7: Dec 27 2024

EPISODE 6.5: Dec 21 2024

EPISODE 6.5: Dec 21 2024

E7: Multiple Opponents, Confined Spaces, and Educating Administrators


Chad and Ari touch base on several questions asked by you the listeners. Topics for this episode include:  -How to Apply Jiu Jitsu to the Correctional and Air Marshal settings -What type of person is most likely going to try an attack a Police Officer -How to read your environment -Proxemics-the science of distance management -Practice Edge Weapon defence -Why your Fundamentals are you go to skills. -Do NOT leave officers to train without direction -Live Resistance training is a MUST -Coaching tip: Should you start in the position taught to you the day you practiced it? -Departments need an educated approach to WHAT they offer their officers. -Multiple opponents and not getting caught "TRAPPLING" -Lions Share: Running a Room, Answering Questions and attacking in the transitional spaces.  


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EPISODE 8: Jan 30 2025

EPISODE 6.5: Dec 21 2024

EPISODE 8: Jan 30 2025

E8: Why many cops hate defensive tactics training and how to resolve that issue


Why many cops hate DT. What are the common reasons: 1)Fear of Injury 2)fear of not being good at it 3)Convinced that the stuff they learn won't work 4)They don't like the instructor 5)The subject matter is nonsense  -What is the goal of training? -Training for common and likely situations -Why Police outcomes are different than other martial art outcomes -How to teach concepts -The Ecological, Rep or combo teaching style. Which is better? -When other cops know Jiu Jitsu that you work with, it instills confidence  The Lions Share segment: Should there be a national use of force combative program?


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EPISODE 9: Feb 21 2025

EPISODE 11: April 14 2025

EPISODE 8: Jan 30 2025

E9: Is Your System Fight Functional?


In this episode, we tackle  two issues:  The first : IS YOUR SYSTEM FIGHT FUNCTIONAL?  The Second: POSTING FAIL VIDEOS OF COPS 

  • Is your system fight Functional?
  • PJJ/BJJ is an evolving art 
  • Is it educational or sensational to post videos of police officers "failing" on Video? 
  • Some speak out of turn in these situations.  
  • Discussion of the Canada Incident in Waterloo Ont and what we thought the officer DID RIGHT! 
  • How we must reframe how we advocate for Jiu Jitsu
  •  If its a video breakdown, we MUST do better replicating the situation  
  • The FOUR Principles : Mobility, Angles, Transition and Controlling Distance 
  • WE must be fare and measured toward other cops if we want them to train 
  • If your gym does not do these things, then it isn't fight functional... 
  • We don't train for eventuality...we train for commonality  
  • The answer is not always grappling 
  • The motivation behind critiquing fail videos. 
  • Building your brand by getting "likes"   The Lions Share segment: Tips on Training for LEO specific classes and Reviewing the "Bad" call.  Check us out on Youtube and Spotify. Or check out website! www.nozoolions.com


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EPISODE 10: March 4 2025

EPISODE 11: April 14 2025

EPISODE 11: April 14 2025

E10: Takes No Talent


In episode 10, Chad and Ari get philosophical about what impact they want to leave on the LEO community. Topics discussed are: 

  • What does it mean that it TAKES NO TALENT? 
  • Why memory aides are helpful. -What is talent? 
  • What things take NO talent? 
  • How selfishness can stunt growth
  • Do common things uncommonly well 
  • Chad's experiences that shaped him 
  • The payoff of hard work and TNT
  • Ari's motive and philosophy 
  • Your vibe attracts your tribe 
  • Yes, things change over time 
  • The best vs the rest mentality
  • What is the benefit of mentioning or promoting other businesses
  • Expectation of no return ends up being a return 
  • BJJ Fanatics and Mike Zenga 
  • The value of highlighting others
  • Age and maturing views of the world 
  • Mike Bland 
  • The future of LEO defensive tactics  


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EPISODE 11: April 14 2025

EPISODE 11: April 14 2025

EPISODE 11: April 14 2025

 E11: What is training for life?


In Episode 11, Chad and Ari tackle several issues including: 

  • Can you train Jiu Jitsu for life? 
  • Accumulation of Injuries and how to work around them  
  • What are your grappling goals?
  •  Know you you are training with  How to handle unsafe students
  •  How to keep yourself safe on the mats 
  • How to navigate EGO The social contract 
  • Testing your submission limits. Is it good? 
  • How to make new people understand the dangers of submissions 
  • Pros vs Amateurs vs Civilians
  •  Respect the FLOW ROLL.  
  • Respect your injuries 
  • Inactivity leads to death 
  • Im too old. I'm overweight. Can I start? 
  • Hard work produces exceptional officers 
  • What is true dedication?


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EPISODE 12: MAy 18 2025

No Zoo Lions Podcast E12: How Are Police Jiu Jitsu Techniques Developed?

In Episode 12, Chad and Ari tackle the following topics: 

  • Can someone teach and not have actively trained or grappled? 
  • The importance of Humility 
  • How are PJJ techniques developed? 
  • Your Jiu Jitsu game will be fundamentally different in 20 years 
  • What makes a good coach? 
  • How we refine moves over time 
  • How coaches learn over time and what sources do they rely on? 
  • Beware of flashy moves 
  • What negative comments on the internet really says about the one posting them 
  • The advantage of trained cops teaching cops. 
  • That move won't work. Show me that at FULL SPEED. 
  • Does the mat enforcer exist? 
  • The etiquette when visiting a new gym  

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